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[newdoctor]

ti inai ta atls?

[tik-tak]

ειναι: advanced trauma life support (σε αντιδαστολή με το btlf,που ειναι το basic,κατι σαν αυτό που μαθαίνουμε στο επιλεγόμενο Α'βοήθειες ή στα μαθηματα Α' βοηθειων του Ερυθρου Σταυρου--αν ενδιαφέρεστε για το τελευταίο: ειναι κύκλοι σεμιναρίων ,δωρεαν,πληροφορίες στο τηλ:2108227438-με καποια επιφυλαξη το τηλ.,εχουν περασει αρκετα χρόνια απο τότε που απευθύνθηκα)

απ'οσο γνωρίζω,τα σεμιναρια στην Πάτρα διοργανωνόνται κάθε χρόνο.Ειχα παρακολουθήσει διάλεξη-παρουσίαση τους σε ένα Πανελλήνιο ιατρικό συνέδριο..που ξεκίνησε αρχικά με ένα τεστ ερωτήσεων (που αφορουσαν σε επειγοντα περιστατικά ) με ένα σύστημα κατι σαν exit polls ή τη βοήθεια του ...κοινου στο τηλεπαιχνίδι του Παπαδόπουλου...μάζεψαν τις απαντήσεις μας και μετα απο την παρουσίασή τους τις συνέκριναν και υπέδειξαν ποιες ήταν οι ορθές...

στο 2ο μερος ,μάλιστα,οι ιδιοι καθηγητές ,νομίζω κος Δουγένης ,κος Ανδρουλακης κλπ, έπαιξαν ενα σκετσάκι σε δυο μέρη (με ρόλους: αγροτικό ιατρό,ασθενή απο τροχαίο,νοσηλευτή,ακτινολόγο κ.ο.κ): το πρωτο εστίαζε στους λαθεμένους χειρισμούς και το δεύτερο μέρος έδειχνε πώς θα λειτουργούσε κάποιος που έχει λάβει εκπαίδευση ATLS.

το επιλεγόμενο ATLS (αμεση αντιμετώπιση πολυτραυματία),που γίνεται στο 10ο και 12ο εξάμηνο,πώς θα μπορούσατε να το αξιολογήσετε??ενδιαφέρομαι να το παρακολουθήσω

[liagouras]

Οποιες πληροφορίες για το ATLS μπορείτε να τις βρείτε στο http://www.facs.org/trauma/atls/ που είναι η επίσημη σελίδα του

[tik-tak]

Εκεί που έψαχνα κάτι παλιές σημειώσεις βρήκα το φυλλάδιο που μας είχαν μοιράσει στο συνέδριο ,που αναφέρω παραπάνω. Μεταφέρω εδώ τα κυριότερα σημεία του:

[…το πρόγραμμα ATLS έχει στόχο τη μείωση των προλήψιμων θανάτων. Το ATLS είναι ένα εντατικό εκπαιδευτικό πρόγραμμα που εφαρμόζεται από το 1980 στις ΗΠΑ. Έχει σχεδιαστεί για να εκπαιδεύει γιατρούς πάνω στις σωστές ενέργειες και τεχνικές της άμεσης υποστήριξης του τραυματία ,της φροντίδας δηλ. που πρέπει να δοθεί τη ‘χρυσή ώρα’ .Απευθύνεται τόσο στους γιατρούς επειγόντων ιατρείων όσο και σ’αυτους που δεν αντιμετωπίζουν καθημερινά τραυματίες.

Το πρόγραμμα περιλαμβάνει διαλέξεις και πρακτική εξάσκηση. Οι διαλέξεις αναφέρονται στην αρχική εκτίμηση και αναζωογόνηση και υποστήριξη του τραυματία μέχρι και τη μεταφορά του στο πλησιέστερο νοσοκομείο. Παράλληλα γίνεται πρακτική εξάσκηση σε προπλάσματα, μανεκέν που υποδύονται ποικίλα τραυματιολογικά περιστατικά καθώς και στο Πειραματικό Χειρουργείο. Τέλος, το πρόγραμμα ολοκληρώνεται με γραπτές και προφορικές εξετάσεις που αξιολογούν τις γνώσεις και ικανότητες των μαθητών .

Οι διαλέξεις γίνονται στην ελληνική γλώσσα ,ενώ το βιβλίο του προγράμματος είναι στη αγγλικά

Προϋποθέσεις επιτυχίας στο πρόγραμμα ATLS :

Καλή γνώση της αγγλικής γλώσσας

άριστη γνώση της ύλης που περιέχεται στο βιβλίο το οποίο δίνεται 6 εβδ πριν

ανελλιπής παρακολούθηση όλου του προγράμματος

βαθμολογία πάνω από 80% στα τεστ πολλαπλών απαντήσεων

επιτυχία σε όλες τις πρακτικές και προφορικές εξετάσεις

ο αριθμός των ατόμων σε κάθε πρόγραμμα περιορίζεται στους 16-18

το αμερικανικό κολέγιο χειρουργών ,καθώς και το Ελληνικό Τμήμα του είναι μη κερδοσκοπικοί οργανισμοί .Το κόστος του προγράμματος κατ’άτομο είναι 100.000δρχ (πριν4- 5 χρόνια ) και περιλαμβάνει: εγγραφή στο πρόγραμμα, βιβλία, εξοπλισμό ,πειραματόζωα, αμοιβή βοηθητικού προσωπικού, πρωινά και μεσημεριανά γεύματα. Κάθε φορά το ποσό της συμμετοχής μειώνεται ανάλογα με τις κρατικές και ιδιωτικές επιχορηγήσεις.

Την ευθύνη της οργάνωσης ATLS έχει η Χειρουργική Κλινική του Παν/μιου Πατρών. Η πρώτη σειρά μαθημάτων στην ηπειρωτική Ευρώπη άρχισε στην Πάτρα το Νοέμβριο του 1993.Στόχος μας είναι η δημιουργία 10 Εκπαιδευτικών Κέντρων στην Ελλάδα. Το ATLS είναι σήμερα προαπαιτούμενο για την έναρξη αρκετών ειδικοτήτων στις ΗΠΑ, Ισραήλ και στην Αγγλία.

Διευθυντής: Ι. Ανδρουλάκης

Συντονίστρια-πληροφορίες: Β.Ταγκαλάκη

Χειρουργική Κλινική Παν/μιου Πατρών…]

υπάρχουν νεώτερες πληροφορίες απο το ψάξιμό σας, παιδιά??

[joan]

απαραίτητη προϋπόθεση για τη συμμετοχή είναι να έχεις ήδη το πτυχίο από την ιατρική σχολή

για τα χρήματα και το χρόνο αναμονής συμφωνώ με τα προηγούμενα παιδιά

[Είσαι αισιόδοξος? Όχι]

Θα ήθελα να ρωτήσω ξέρετε πόσο διαρκεί η ισχύς του atls,του bls και του ptls?

Γενικά αξίζουν ,είναι δύσκολο να τα καταφέρεις παράλληλα με δουλειά?

Επίσης πώς γράφεσαι σε μια λίστα για τα δύο πρώτα?γίνεται διαδικτυακά,για να μη χρειαστεί να πηγαίνω?

(ενδιαφέρομαι για ptls κι είχα δηλώσει,με πήραν, αλλά απαραίτητη προϋπόθεση να έχεις ένα από τα δύο πρώτα και δεν το ήξερα.)

Ευχαριστώ.

[isis]

Θα ήθελα να ρωτήσω ξέρετε πόσο διαρκεί η ισχύς του atls,του bls και του ptls?

Γενικά αξίζουν ,είναι δύσκολο να τα καταφέρεις παράλληλα με δουλειά?

Επίσης πώς γράφεσαι σε μια λίστα για τα δύο πρώτα?γίνεται διαδικτυακά,για να μη χρειαστεί να πηγαίνω?

(ενδιαφέρομαι για ptls κι είχα δηλώσει,με πήραν, αλλά απαραίτητη προϋπόθεση να έχεις ένα από τα δύο πρώτα και δεν το ήξερα.)

Ευχαριστώ.

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