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  1. Anyone interested in getting some forensic psychiatry experience, in a trully unique environment that doesn't exist in greece? Must be able to function as a junior doctor (basic medicine= FY2+)+ basic psychiatric experience highly desirable. Would also be suitable for a greek trainee clocking time/ consultant equivalent wanting more experience (as long as they were able to do some 'junior' type work). Will offer plenty of support, whatever your career stage, to help you achieve your goals. 6m posts available (paid work , not 'observer'= need GMC). A suitable/ willing candidate might be able to stay longer and progress to speciality grade doc in the UK. Happy to give further info over skype/email etc I can email the application link to interested individuals. I am the shortlister, NOT an angency/intermediary
  2. Working in the UK , living in the UK is really not much better to working in Greece, just different. Lots of people hate it here for a myriad of reasons you have not even considered...They go to Canada/Oz would you consider those destinations? 35 (38+) is not a problem, language proficiency can be acquired , previous degrees / non medical experience counts for nothing these days of absolute standardization having kids per ce is not a problem FY2= apply to whatever + 6-8years(depending on specialty)= CCT= consultant post How old will the kids be +3years? do they speak english? are difficult oncalls, exams,working in different hospitals realistic when you have a displaced young family? wife age & occupation? deposit for a house?/ rent per month? do you want the best schools for your kids? childcare? is the british back-of-beyond better than a big greek city?Can you afford life (plus wife & kids) in a big city? Brexit? Visa's for elderly grandparents to visit?
  3. Personally I don't think the UK is a good bet for people at the same stage as you, not any more... I'd look into Sweden/ similar. Erasmus? You can always approach greeks in the UK on your own (sorry can't help you myself, I'm a psychiatrist)
  4. Elective, attachment etc, whatever you can find. Brexit has not happened...yet... WORST case scenario,some thoughts: There may not be automatic recognition of medical/specialist qualifications (exams like Canada/OZ?) Traveling might require visa, working might entail all sorts of hassle (leave to remain , work permits etc) Doctors are not really valued in the UK- they are too expensive and can be substantially replaced by other professionals (my personal view). If you plan to live here long term your loved ones etc may need visa/etc just to come visit. If you train here your qualifications might not be recognised in Greece.
  5. Google the application scoring criteria to get a better idea where to focus your efforts. Always a plus if you can find some way to experience the system from within (not because you will score higher in the application but because you'll have more life experience to answer any questions). Have you considered the Brexit implications? If applying for GMC rego post Brexit might be in for a nasty surprise... (The 11ths catchphrase was Geronimo)
  6. Let's agree to disagree on this one... I call my junior SHO,HR departments accidentally advertise all sorts of inaccuracies... There is no officially recognised role for an SHO.Theres specialty trainees , there's SAS doctors, few 'associate specialists'. 'SHOs' on a junior doc/SAS contract are just that,not really SHOs SHO is a term of endearment in my book, a relic of the past. Anyone who advertises an SHO post should be approached with causion as they have not kept up with the times/may offer odd/ unsupported local T&C s of employment.
  7. SHOs went our of fashion in 2007...Sweet Jesus... Google your Royal College of interest and check out the trainee section. Google the person specification. Misconceptions applicable to most newbs : No one cares about 'Greek med school vs Prague vs Republic of Nowhere ', or grade average ,as long as you have GMC rego There are no silly foreigner quotas for training posts in the UK- You are an equal (equally messed up by Brexit with the other Europeans). I have never felt anything less than an equal, even when being treated badly... No-one cares/understands what agrotikko is, all they care is some documentation that you have acquired foundation competencies. Its about the workings of the training number allocations/quality assurance , not personal.No FY2 competencies means immediate fail on application due to not satisfying the essential criteria( see above person specification). You should be able to find the scoring sheets for applications on the internet. Research only counts for so much etc. You could go on https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/ , start making an application to see what sort of things they are really interested in. http://www.medical-interviews.co.uk/c-42-fy-posts.aspx (excellent resource, would recommend to anyone/ all levels. Got my last consultant job following their structure )
  8. The NHS is really struggling- not enough doctors around wanting to do psych... A good doctor, who speaks English has an excellent chance of getting straight into training. Your biggest concern should be Brexit :/
  9. Its a case of timing: If you've missed the application period for psych CT :consider LAS FY/Locum in psychiatry If not, apply for both and aim for psych CT If you've got GMC rego and actually want to do psych, I can get you in touch with the lady who organises rotas in Leeds
  10. You need to somehow explain any gaps in employment ie family commitments ,I was preparing for the USMLE(why didn't you go to the US?) etc If you can satisfy foundation competencies apply to CT1 psych,Id say,how is it going to be easier to function as an FY2?You might end up starting with psych anyway! Happy to help/advise anyone who is interested in psych. DOI Psychiatrist
  11. 1. get into training first. 'Alternative medicine' does not follow the medical model. You don't need to be a doctor to offer this service... 2.Google the RC of GP. Call the greek authorities. 3.you don't understand how things work, and you barely know where you need/want to go....not a good place to be. Why do you want to do research? What is your field of interest? USA: visa restrictions, medical licencing issues. UK: Brexit, GMC, Rest Of EU : similar. How many languages do you speak? 4. The UK does not care where you are from. There are no IMGs quotas. Nobody wants to be a GP in the UK these days because of the flawed NHS business model (nothing to do with the practice/academic knowledge of medicine) I don't think there are any GPs in here. If you want to be a GP in Greece with a special interest in something I would suggest you: get onto greek GP training research the market value of your interests (pain is very different to homeopathy) in the area you actually want to practice in (greek city? rural?) find some way to get accredited etc in whatever takes your fancy and is lucrative forget research focus on local networking GP in the UK is not a good career atm
  12. Psychiatry opportunities NOW (NHS) Looking for an SHO equivalent/Trust doctor In Leeds (its a decent city, flights straight to Athens via Manchester, 2h 15min to London) Must speak English Must be certified for at least FY1 competencies (ie not a medical student. Ideally post agggrotico, no significant psych experience needed other than willingness to learn) Must have GMC registration NO UK experience necessary Let me know if you are interested. (I am not a recruiter, I am not a locum agency, this is an honest and true request for someone to join our service because there is a huge recruitment crisis locally. I'll be around to help with this, and further on depending what your long term career aspirations are)
  13. Finish your AgrotiKo Get your GMC rego sorted 3m before the end of AgrotiKo Email psych 'training programme directors ' anywhere in the UK and attach your CV.Be honest about your career plans and need for experience. Await replies (LOADS of job vacancies at core training level throughout the country ) Start with a LAS/LAT psych, whatever comes. Slide into your core training job of choice. Get your cct in 6 years. ..and migrate to Australia You will not jeopardise patient safety as a new CT1 psych without prior experience. All you need is a bit of common sence and a willingness to learn.
  14. Staff grades are like gold dust. Sho's are nowhere to be found. There are good ex-trainees choosing to locum because the jobs advertised are not attractive and they are buying time. The Trust's are struggling and are choosing to 'restructure' rather than re-advertise jobs following retirement. Applying for a job doesn't mean you'll get it , even if there are no other candidates,because you have to be deemed 'appoint a ble'. Greek specialists don't have 'approved clinician status'. This requires a 3 month supervised practice period, not to mention learning all about the Mental Health Act.You can't be a 'consultant' on the shop floor without AC... In the current climate, my personal opinion is that a Greek CCT could get a staff grade job, get AC and then depending on the specialty and need of the Trust negotiate their terms for a consultant post.
  15. Looking for a show of hands:how many trained/trainee psychiatrists would attend an interview in greece to take up a post as a staff grade doctor in psychiatry (different specialties ) in Yorkshire ? Opportunities for further advancement locally subject to need and performance . THIS IS NOT A JOB ADVERT, just personal curiosity
  16. Looking for a show of hands:how many trained/trainee psychiatrists would attend an interview in greece to take up a post as a staff grade doctor in psychiatry (different specialties ) in Leeds? Opportunities for further advancement locally subject to need and performance .
  17. UK training revolves around 'competensies' and the 'ARCP' process. My understanding is that your Cyprus pre registration year could count as FY2,if you can get someone to sign you off for FY2 competensies. 1 year of research counts as nothing on the application form.Any published research counts as per the scoring guidelines ( as a general rule...not that much). In the UK LAT counts as whatever the doctor's needs. ie following a sucessful ARCP at CMT 1, one person might count it as CMT 2, whilst the same job for someone without an ARCP it would count as CMT 1. In your case I would suggest you go for an FY2, then enter CMT , get your exams and then apply for cardiology.Check the person specks if there are any experience caps along the line. More info most likely to be found on the relevant royal college website. In my personal opinion its unwise, unhelpful and shortsighted to fret over any delays or 'repeating a year'.
  18. You clearly have no idea how to get into training in the UK.I don't know where to start... Have a look here: http://www.foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/pages/home/faqs Have a look at the person specifications. "publications' count far less than you imagine... Dont know about ireland.I would actively look into Scotland. Getting a UK CCT is not that difficult if you follow the rules.Once you get your foot in the door you're half way there.
  19. uk juniors will still be making more money than the greeks. Business as usual- might even be a bit easier to get uk jobs in the near future, as all the savvy brits will be heading down under.
  20. ...What is a motivation letter?! Google the core medical training scheme in your location of choice. Email the training program director for core trainees. Google the royal college for your preferred specialty.Check all the divisions for greek sounding names.Email them. If you already have GMC rego create an account with www.doctors.net and ask for some help there. ps my replies are not meant to be optimistic.I aim to analyse the facts, as I know them.
  21. Attachment used to be the big thing... These days not so much. It doesnt score anything on the applications (you could twist it as commitment to specialty) Its worth it for the networking opportunities. From a consultant's perspective its a pain. They'll need to supervise you,arrange for induction etc...you will offer them nothing in return but take up their time and they risk ending up with a lemon attache who'll sour everyone's mood and possibly lead to complaints from/to the department. You should indeed contact the postgraduate centre.Some hospitals charge for the priviledge but at least you'll have some asurance that the process will be streamlined. Nothing stopping you from contacting individual consultants.A kind soul might be willing to go out of their way to help you out. Be honest in your email about what you are hoping to achieve,attach cv, be flexible on dates and give them plenty of time to arrange things. If you manage to sort things out, make sure you complete an audit and make friends with individuals likely to be supportive in the future.
  22. @ al3kmarin You appear fearful of the 'non-stop evaluation process with exams and interviews'.Exams are hard but not impossible. ARCPs are a matter of demonstrating 'competence' (not ' excellence ' - this is a discussion for another day...).The training scheme would expect ALL trainees to achieve a satisfactory ARCP outcome, if you are struggling it should be picked up early , and you should receive the right support to make it through. Exams and ARCPs are not a competition, ie you don't have to score more than your colleagues to make it though, you only need to be good enough. Audit : be honest. Describe why you chose the topic,how far you got ,why you stopped, what you would have done if you had enough time (completed the cycle, presented findings etc) and ultimately what you've learned.You might not score much...but every little helps. When asked to talk about yourself/cv :Talk about exactly what you've learned during your time in cardiology, clinical issues, how you observed the team working, what inspired you, how you fit in. Send your old colleagues an honest thank you email(if you don't have their email call the ward/secretary) explaining what it is that they've done that impressed you in some detail and then ask if they are willing to help you with interview advice and the application process.They will most likely really appreciate the gesture (and print it for their appraisal...) You should NOT aim to present yourself as 'humble'. You may come across as obsequious...not a good quality for a doctor. Enthusiastic and aware of your limitations and reflective is what you should be aiming for. I have no experience of FY, but the above should apply to all levels of training and beyond...
  23. Msc is a postgraduate degree, NOT research ie it scores on a different part of the application. An Msc thats led to a research project that was published scores both as a 'degree' and as 'research' (maybe even as' management' depending on the type of work you've done). Do NOT read anything dated pre-2008 (wasted effort - obsolete info). 'NHS experience' does not 'score' as such. What did you DO during those 3 months?what did you LEARN?How do you EVIDENCE this? There's nothing wrong with having a dream, but cardiology is 4y in the future for you ....who knows what cardiology will be like then, who knows if the NHS will still be around then, who knows if greece/ + the UK will still be part of the EU... UK training (at this point) is geared towards producing 'consultants'. A 'consultant' is not just an independent medical expert but also one of the cogs in the UK NHS organisation. As such a 'consultant ' is a role unique within the UK NHS, not replicated in other countries. This is a fact not a statement of inferiority/superiority. My personal opinion is that soon this will change...whether it should/would have any influence on your plans to emigrate is another matter. 'Wicked Witch' is capitalised
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